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IMPORTANT UPDATE!!! Temporary Overnight Moderation Changes
tyme

13 days ago

IMPORTANT UPDATE!!! Temporary Overnight Moderation Changes

Hi forum community,   We want to let you know about a short-term change to how we moderate posts overnight. We are short staffed for our night shifts at the moment, and will be training new team members to help, so posts made between 12am and 6am will not be posted live straight away.   What this means for you:  Posts made between 12am–6am will be held for review and released shortly after 6am.  From 7am onwards, posts will be moderated as usual and posts will be live.  This will start from Monday July 7th and last for about 2 weeks; We’ll keep you updated here.   We made this plan with consideration around what has the least impact to the community while maintaining the safe and supportive environment we all value so much here. We are really grateful for your understanding as this will allow for us to properly bring in the new staff for night shifts.    While you wait for a post to appear overnight, it might be a good chance to check out some helpful threads such as: Help with Sleep   Mindfulness Winding Down If you are needing extra support in those time frames these resources are available to you: Lifeline: 13 11 14 or Crisis Chat Suicide call back service: 1300 659 467 or online counselling If in immediate danger: 000 Thanks for working with us through this adjustment time everyone! 

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SANE Voices Newsletter - Edition #1
Ru-bee

5 days ago

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Sunday Social Chat -- 10th August 2025
Friday Coffee and Chat -- 8th August 2025
Friends, Family and Carers, Fancy a Cuppa and a Chat, Connect now
Icebreakers time!
rav3n

10 minutes ago

Icebreakers time!

Welcome forumites!!  If you’ve attended groups (through either Guided Recovery or RecoveryClub), then you’ll be familiar with all the fun lil icebreakers that the amazing facilitators come up with! 🧊 With our forums community growing each day, we thought it’d be a nice way to get to know each other and connect here too!  The mods will take turns posting a new icebreaker question each week!!  The first icebreaker question is... *insert drumroll*    Which frog do you relate to most at the moment and why? 🐸*or if there's another frog that's not in the image, feel free to share or describe it!   @AuntGlow @0ddsidian @Ru-bee @Aegis @Jynx @tyme @RiverSeal @avant-garde @Blackcloud @Snowie @Captain24 @MissinTooth @ale_inmelb @Zoe7 @Dimity @outlander @Eve7 @TAB @Meowmy @Till23 @Shaz51@oceangirl @The-red-centaur @Patches59 @Clawde @ENKELI @Healandlove @Appleblossom @Bill16 @StuF @StanD @AlwaysMyself @creative_writer @Lowrida29 @LostOne71 @Sevismo @Glisten @PeppyPatti @Oaktree @S1TREP @BecomingOkay @Magpie22 @flower881 @Lapis_Anteater @MatchaToad + feel free to tag some people who would interested!

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Wind-down Wednesdays
rav3n

3 days ago

Wind-down Wednesdays

Welcome to Wind-down Wednesdays where we work through a new grounding or soothing tool on every second Wednesday! 🌺 The purpose of this thread is To learn more about various grounding/soothing strategies (can add them into your self-care toolbox) To understand why we do it and how it works in calming us down To create a safe space for members to visit whenever they need to wind down and catch their breath. You can work on the strategy by yourself here, or tag community members to join you (please be mindful of our guidelines - remember that members may not always respond immediately, and let’s not place pressure on others to respond) Promote self-care and self-reliance in regulating your emotions! Got a grounding tool/soothing strategy you’d like to share on this thread? Email us (team@saneforums.org) to let us know and we’ll save you a Wednesday slot! 😊   The first grounding tool we’ll be exploring is the 3-3-3 technique. 3-3-3: Name 3 things you see: scan the space around you. For each item you identify, really focus on the details of it – what colour is it? Is it heavy or light? Big or small? What’s the texture of the object? Name 3 things you hear: what are some sounds near you or far from you, are they soft or loud? Listen closely to identify them. Move 3 parts of your body: it can be light or dramatic movements such as slowly rolling your shoulders, clenching and unclenching your fists, wiggling your fingers and toes, jumping up and down, shaking your wrists, etc.   So how does this work? Well, when we’re feeling anxious and overwhelmed, it can sometimes trigger a stress response where our body’s fight-flight-freeze system is activated, which you can learn more about here: The Four 'F' Trauma Responses - SANE Forums. This system is typically activated when our body identifies a physical threat, our body enters a heightened state of arousal to help survive – this can look like increased heart rate, increased muscle tension, decreased appetite, etc. When our anxious thoughts keep activating this heightened state of arousal, it can lead to a very dysregulated nervous system where our bodies keep reacting out of proportion to the threat, making it hard to calm down. Moving our focus from internal things (like anxious thoughts/feelings) to external things (like what we can see/hear), helps us slow things down and calm the stress response. It gives our body a chance to focus on things that it perceived as non-threatening (i.e. identifying a cup or a bird flying around), which gives our body a chance to slowly calm down. Practicing grounding techniques regularly can help regulate the nervous system with time. For more information, feel free to read this article: 3-3-3 Rule for Anxiety: How to Use, Scientific Basis, Other Coping Strategies Now let’s give it a go! Feel free to share the 3 things you saw, heard and the 3 body parts you moved – and any other reflections you’d like to add. 

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How to Create a SANE Forums Account
Ru-bee

about 2 months ago

How to Create a SANE Forums Account

Hello! For those who are interested in the SANE forums, maybe you have spent some time taking a look around and reading threads and are now wondering how to get involved, here’s a quick guide for how to sign up and sign in to the SANE forums. Let’s start with an overview of why you might like to sign up: The SANE forums are a free, anonymous space to access peer to peer support, and is accessible 24/7 on any device They are moderated by mental health professionals for safety and support Open to adults in Australia living with mental health issues, their families, friends, and carers How to Start an Account Go to the SANE Forums Website: saneforums.org    Register for an Account Click “Sign up” to create an account. Fill in the registration form: Create a unique username (do not use your real name or a name that might be otherwise identifiable for privacy) Provide a valid email address and basic personal information Set a secure password Agree to the Terms & Conditions and Community Guidelines Don’t forget to click “Sign up” Confirm Your Email Check your email inbox for a confirmation message (don’t forget to check your junk folder too!) Click the link in the email to activate your account. How to Log In Return to saneforums.org Click “Log In” Enter Your Username and Password Use the details you created during registration. Access the Forums Once logged in, you can: Read and join discussions Post questions or comments Connect with others for support Some extra notes: You can browse and read forum posts without registering, but you must create an account to post or interact. SANE Forums are anonymous and moderated 24/7 to ensure safety and privacy. Only one account per person is allowed, and you must be over 18 and living in Australia. If you have trouble registering or logging in, visit the site’s help section or contact SANE Support Services. Safety Note:SANE Forums are not a crisis service. If you need urgent help, contact Lifeline (13 11 14) or emergency services (000).

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✨Sunday Intention Setting✨
AuntGlow

about 16 hours ago

✨Sunday Intention Setting✨

Hello lovely people, I have been reflecting on some ways we can support you all through our recovery-oriented way of connecting on the forums, and thought that creating a weekly intention setting/reflection conversation could be really helpful. 🥰 Intention-setting can allow us to more mindfully focus our attention onto the things we would like to explore more of (without too much pressure!). And when we do so within community, it can help us to feel more supported as we go about exploring new habits and ideas. Now, this isn't about showing up perfectly or reaching all of our 'goals' overnight, but rather, exploring what is possible, what we enjoy, and how we can feel more safely connected to ourselves.  So, what will this look like exactly? 1. Set your intention for the week. For example, I am going to practice allowing myself 5 minutes a day to slow down. 2. Reflect. You can do this throughout the week via your notes app, a journal, or here on the forums. *Notice what feels good, what doesn't, and why.  3. Share the following Sunday. Let us know what you were able to explore and what came up for you/if you have any questions or need some support.  Remember - there is no right or wrong! It's so fine if all you did was hold the intention in the back of your mind - change takes time. I would love you all to have fun with this and to explore things from a place of curiosity and compassion. 💛 And... go! @Dreamy @MissinTooth @Bow @Shaz51 @Captain24 @creative_writer @avant-garde @Oaktree @ENKELI @Dimity @Semly @Appleblossom @MJG017 @Sunnyside226 @Blackcloud @PeppyPatti @Till23  @Jynx @tyme @Ru-bee @rav3n @RiverSeal 

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How To: Recovery Focused Posting
Jynx

2 months ago

How To: Recovery Focused Posting

Hi there SANE Forums Fam!     This how-to guide was designed to help you post to the forums and create safety for yourself and others when talking about those tough topics, such as suicidal ideation and self-harm related thoughts and urges.    We hope that this guide will help you to share safely about thoughts of suicide and self-harm, and seek support from others who understand what you are going through.      What is recovery focused posting?    When we talk about posting in a way that is recovery-oriented or recovery focused, we are encouraging posting in a way that protects both you, and the community. We let the community know what we need, so that it means even on the tough days, we are all here to support each other's safety and well-being.    What it is -  a way to communicate our needs so we can get the right support all about keeping the community safe  a way for us all to keep working on building our resilience and capacity What it isn't -  about banning or forbidding discussion of the difficult topics a requirement to 'always be positive' or to pretend we're feeling okay when we're not a restriction on sharing big, dark, or difficult feelings Having a 'recovery focus' is all about highlighting our needs, what's worked for us before, and what may or may not be helpful for us now. It helps reduce confusion and concern, helps reduce anxiety for members reading along, and reduces the risk of us triggering or getting triggered. It can even be empowering for us, in helping us learn to identify our support and recovery needs and practice communicating them to the people around us.    Here are some examples of ways we can make our posts recovery focused:       For many members and readers here on the SANE Forums, thoughts of suicide and struggles with self-harm are a common part of their mental health or life journey. It's often difficult to talk about these topics, so we want folks to feel like they can be open about what they're going through - without the risk of accidentally encouraging each others rumination or risky behaviours.   If you are thinking about suicide, reaching out for support and talking about it is an important step to make sure that you get the right help when you need it most. The forums offers a judgement-free space to express ourselves, and we want to continue to encourage people to feel safe in sharing their story here. Creating a safe community starts with how we use our language.   Safe language is important because:   It allows others to feel capable and comfortable with providing us with support.   It can protect others from common triggers and help someone else who is sitting with thoughts of suicide too.   How we talk about suicide in the Forums is important for you, and for your fellow community members.      Before you post to the Forums    The SANE Forums are a peer support community where most of the support is provided by peers. This makes it a great place to seek support from others who understand what you are going through.    It's important to note though, the SANE Forums cannot provide crisis support. We have put together some questions you can ask yourself before posting to work out whether it’s the SANE Forums or a crisis service that might be the best option for you in the moment (adapted from the Chatsafe online resource).    Where is the right place/service for me to ensure I get the right help at the right time? If you are thinking about suicide, it’s important to get the right help at the right time.     We have a flow chart to help you decide where the right place or service might be for you to seek help. This includes when it is okay to post to the SANE Forums, or when crisis services or emergency support might be the best avenue get the support you need.        As a peer-to-peer support service, the SANE Forums can’t provide crisis support   This is because:  Most of the peer support that is offered across the forums comes from other members just like you. In a crisis, or when you are feeling unsafe, it is important that help comes from people who are trained to provide crisis support.  The nature of online forums mean that replies aren’t instant. This means you may not get the help exactly when you need it.  We do have Moderators and Peer Support Workers online 24/7 to monitor posts and offer support when needed, but the nature of forums means we can’t always be as responsive as you might need in a crisis. That’s where phone or webchat crisis supports are a good option to get timely support.   Language can be ambiguous or interpreted in different ways in online, which is why when we are concerned that someone might be thinking about suicide, we check in via post or email, and refer to crisis support  What am I hoping to get out of sharing my story? (aka: my purpose and needs)    People talk about experiences of suicide for many reasons. This includes seeking help and support for thoughts of suicide, to raise awareness, or to support another person who might be going through something similar. There are lots of different reasons. Understanding your reason/purpose will help you work out the right avenue to meet your needs.     What parts of my story am I comfortable to share and how will I feel when I share? (aka: my privacy and wellbeing)   We all have different boundaries around how much of ourselves and our story we feel comfortable to share in a public space.    Ensuring you feel safe to share when talking about thoughts of suicide is important, whether that is in an online space, a private space (eg: with a counsellor or mental health professional), or with a trusted person in our lives.       How can I write my story in a way that ensures I get the support I need AND is safe for others reading?   Think about how you would write your story and whether you are in a space to be able to write in a way that is safe for all to read.     We have some tips to help you do this. You can also look at our Community Guidelines.   How can I write about thoughts of suicide safely?    Let the community know that you are safe:  If you are posting about suicide, and are safe, then include that in your post.  For example: “I have been coping with thoughts of suicide, but I am safe. I am looking for support from my peers”;“Today has been really difficult, and I don’t know if I can keep doing this, but I am safe tonight and will reach out to a helpline if I feel I need to”  or; “I am someone who lives with thoughts of suicide each day, but if they get worse tonight I will go for a walk and speak with a friend. I am safe for now” If you aren’t feeling safe, it’s time to log off the forums and access crisis support.    Use safe language:  Our words have power, and it’s important that we use trauma safe language when talking about suicide on the forums. By trauma safe language, we mean language that is not graphic, upsetting or triggering for others to read. This includes staying away from graphic detail including means or plans, and making sure you are clear and direct about your current safety.   Use trigger warnings:  Help other forum members make an informed decision about whether to read on by including a trigger warning.  You might add TW: mentions suicide in your title, or include Trigger warning: mentions thoughts of suicide in the first line of your post.  Avoid mentioning methods of suicide:  Many members of the forums may have experience of suicidal thoughts, feelings or behaviours, and might be triggered, upset or impacted by mentions of methods.   Instead, remove the methods of suicide and replace with more general statements such as “I think about action to end my life”, or “I have had thoughts of methods before”. You can still get your story across without listing the method.    Let the community know what support you are looking for/what you need:  You know what you need best, and letting others know means they can provide more effective support to you when you need it most.     For example:  “I just need someone to sit with me right now”, “I would like some suggestions” or, “I need some distraction”    I often hear Moderators/Peer Workers ask the question “Are you feeling safe for now?”. What does it mean?    If we have reason to believe that you might be thinking about suicide, we will check in to see how you are feeling, and whether you are currently thinking about suicide.  You may hear us ask if you are safe, but safety can mean many things, so let’s define what we mean in the context of suicide.     “Are you safe for now?”:  If we are concerned that you might be thinking about suicide, we will ask you if you are safe for now. What we mean is, are you planning to act on thoughts of suicide now?    "I am safe for now":  If you are safe for now, we will encourage you to reach out and seek peer support through the forums. There are a lot of other people here sitting with thoughts of suicide too who know what it’s like to take steps towards safety.     For many people, thoughts of suicide can be ongoing, so we may ask a few times as safety might change from hour to hour, or day to day. That’s why we say safety for now, as we are trying to understand your immediate safety and offer appropriate support.     This is especially important in public online spaces where we don’t have the same communication options as we would in real life settings.     It can be really helpful to have a safety plan prepared for times when you might have thoughts of suicide, which will help you take steps to seek help or safety. Beyondnow is a great online tool to help you build a safety plan.    "I am not able to stay safe":  If you tell us you are not able to stay safe, we will ask you to confirm if you are planning to end your life and if you have a plan. This will happen off the forums and via email.     If you aren't able to or aren't sure that you can stay safe, this is when it is time to step off the forums and access immediate crisis support. In an emergency, the best place to seek help is to call 000, or go to your local emergency department.     As a mental health service, SANE can be a safe space to share if you are feeling unsafe, and we will get emergency help to you.    As mandatory reporters, if a forum member tells us or indicates that they are in serious and imminent risk of harm, including planning to end their life now, then we do contact emergency services. This is an important part of ensuring the safety and wellbeing of those who access our services.     Mandatory reporting is (as the name suggests) mandatory by law, which ensures that every health service, including SANE, are looking out for the safety and wellbeing of the people we support.      When might Moderators, Community Managers or Peer Support Workers step in?   The SANE Forums team may step in when a post breaches our safety guidelines, and could impact the safety of the person posting or the wellbeing of those reading.     We will remove or edit posts that mention or imply: A person intends to end their life, or doesn’t confirm safety in a way that could be upsetting for those reading. This includes where there are ambiguous mentions or inferences to suicide without confirming safety.  Methods of suicide or self harm  Graphic descriptions    Check out the suggestions earlier in this post to help you stay within the guidelines.  We will email members to:  Check in to see if a member is safe for now and offer referrals to crisis support  Check in with others who may have been upset by something they have read on the forums  Let members know if a post is removed or edited Offer suggestions of how to bring posts back in line with the guidelines  Let a member know if we are involving emergency services, if doing so doesn't put the person at further risk of harm SANE has a responsibility to keep the Forums safe for everyone. This means that there may be times we will need to make tough decisions to remove a post, email you about the guidelines, or pause an account.     If we are concerned about your safety, we want to make sure you have access to crisis services, and we will refer to options such as:  National crisis services such as Lifeline (13 11 14)  and Suicide Call Back Service (1300 659 467). You can find a list of crisis services at the top of every page on the SANE Forums.  000 in an emergency  SANE’s other support services  Other services specific to your situation (eg: 1800Respect, BlueKnot, Mensline…)   Summary Here are the key points:  It’s important we can talk about topics like suicide and self-harm here on the forums  How we talk about suicide is key to creating safety for the person posting, and those reading  Using safe language, trigger warnings and letting the community know you are safe, and what you need, can help ensure you get the help you deserve, while also looking out for the community  SANE staff may reach out to ask if you are safe and offer referrals to crisis supports. We may also remove posts that breach our safety guidelines around talking about suicide  If you are unsafe and at imminent and serious risk of harm, we are required by law to get emergency help to you  Thanks for reading along folks 😊

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Welcome! Introduce yourself here 🙂
Daisydreamer

1 day ago

Welcome! Introduce yourself here 🙂

New here? Welcome to the SANE Forums! We are so happy you found us and have joined our wonderful community. There are lots of people here like you, who can understand what you might be going through and offer valuable peer support.     You may see members reaching out to share their stories, asking questions about mental health, looking for others who get it, seeking support and offering support. We hope you find this a supportive and welcoming space to be.    We want to get to know you, and introduce you to other members of the SANE Community.    To get started, you can simply post here by clicking "reply" to introduce yourself and a fun fact or two about you.    Or, you can introduce yourself to the community by starting a new discussion thread! How to do that you ask? Follow the below steps to create your first post.   Click back into the Welcome & Getting Started topic area Click the ‘New Discussion’ Button Type in a subject title Enter your post (there are some helpful tips on how you can introduce yourself below) Then click post! You may see our Peer Support Workers welcoming new members in this space, so please reach out if you have any questions, or if we can help you get started 🙂 We are always happy to help! To reach us, @moderator or email us at team@saneforums.org. We look forward to getting to chatting soon

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Newbie's Social Club - Come make some friends!
Jynx

about 8 hours ago

Newbie's Social Club - Come make some friends!

Hey Forumites!!    This is a space for members new and old, to gather around and help make our newer members feel welcome!    We've all been newbies ourselves at some point, and can empathise with how incredibly daunting it can be entering a new space. A lot of folks have trouble even knowing where to start, and (even though we're in the midst of improving it all) we know the forums can be a tricky space to navigate - which can make it very difficult for newbies to be able to find their footing! On top of that, joining any established community means being 'the new kid on the block', and seeing others connecting easily with established relationships can sometimes feel like we aren't welcome, or that we need to 'break in' to the conversation somehow.    Well this space aims to alleviate that pressure and help facilitate some new connections! Whether you're brand new here or you've been here since the very beginning, you're welcome to come hang out, meet some new people, reconnect with others, and maybe even make a new friend!   We will try to tag new members as they join, so help us make them feel welcome!  Here's today's newest forumites: @noodles1  @IndigOverwhelm  @Sam63  @Sosad01  @jsbpd  @JJll  @Andora  @riotgrrl  @HopeEverlasting  @Bellle    Feel free to tell us a little about yourself, what brought you to the forums, and what you're looking for here!   Tagging in our lovely bunch of Community Guides too! They're seasoned members who volunteer their time and energy towards making the forums a safe and welcoming place for everyone. We wouldn't have the community we do without their efforts and their passion! Feel free to reach out to them, they're always quite happy to help guide and support 😊 @Anastasia @BPDSurvivor @Eve7 @Faith-and-Hope @MDT @Judi9877 @outlander @Shaz51 @Snowie @wellwellwellnez @Zoe7     

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MH56|New Contributor|Last message about 3 hours ago
Where to begin

I don’t know where to begin, so I will just let you know how I am feeling and maybe someone tell me how to get help. I am starting to feel worthless that I am going mad, I can’t do anything all I want to do is lay around do nothing. I have to force myself to have a shower, I can’t even clean up the house it’s filthy caked on dust I say to myself leave it can always do it tomorrow but tomorrow never comes.  Cry all the time at a drop at a hat. I feel like a burden to everyone and they would be better if I not around anymore. Just get into my bed and go to sleep  for good. Can someone tell me what’s wrong with me please.  

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JBG|Casual Contributor|Last message about 13 hours ago
ASD and ADHD

How do I know i have ASD? Everything i read and understand tells me I have some signs and symptoms.... it seems like a simple question but to me its really complicated

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JBG|Casual Contributor|Last message about 14 hours ago
Well I found my way here.

Hi, not sure where to start with this. Looking for a like minded community that can help me navigate late in life ADHD diagnosis (possibly autism as well) as well as developing skills for coping with life and everything My journey began when coping with my wife's diagnosis and treatment for MS. I spiralled into depression and a constant daily battle with anxiety. To cut a long story short,  I was diagnosed with ADHD and have been also been medicated for depression and anxiety.  Each day I work through my challenges in my life realising more and more I have been making so well for years.  

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ThatGuyBPD|Contributor|Last message about 1 hour ago
Recently struggling

I feel trapped, inside my own head. I've been having some quite serious paranoid thoughts, even though recently I've been trying to better myself bit by bit. Exercise, sleeping better, trying to socialize. But every fibre of my being is struggling with it. The closer I get to new people, the more I push away. My paranoid thoughts running like crazy. They don't like you, they deserve a better friend, you're just wasting their time, why involve other people in your disaster of a life etc.  Feeling negative and with crippling dissociation  Sorry for the vent 

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CSD|New Contributor|Last message about 14 hours ago
New here

Hi,I'm new here. I've been battling depression for many yrs... just feel like I need to talk at the moment.. not sure if I should be here on this forum or not.. sorry if not I'm not meant to be. If anyone responds, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Sabby|Contributor|Last message about 2 hours ago
Online EMDR

Does this website or any other you know have have access to free online EMDR ?Thanks

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snowflake231|Senior Contributor|Last message about 17 hours ago
Admission to public mental health unit

Hi everyone so I'm being admitted to an impatient unit tomorrow. I was just wondering if you are able to bring and use mobile phones. Thank you for advance.  

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Sabby|Contributor|Last message about 13 hours ago
Apprehension about diagnosis and unknown

Hi thereI'm new here and wanted to share my all consuming thoughts about what could be wrong with me. There's a big story- childhood abuse, intense low self worth, 25 year DV relationship, rec drug use, anxiety and depression, when i have a friend i obsess over them, uncontrolled eating, unhealthy drinking but all alongside that is a drive to keep up a facade that I'm a strong sorted individual and held a career that has provided enough for my family. I'm a perfectionist, procrastinator and find relationships hard. Speaking words about all of these things is near impossible- my mouth just won't move. I feel lazy and sometimes a fraud.My kids have ADHD and I am having that explored next month... but I can't help wonder if it's more. 

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Shaz51|Community Guide|Last message about 14 hours ago
Sunday Social Chat -- 10th August 2025

  hello, all my friends anyone like a tea or coffee and a chat let's join together here to share photos, jokes or anything you want to talk about 😍

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AnnoyedSheDevil|Contributor|Last message about 20 hours ago
Ending dating because of compatibility issues

I recently started dating again after the breakdown of a long term, and in hindsight extremely toxic, relationship.I am apprehensive though because while the man I'm dating is sweet, he is also showing signs of toxic mindsets and I have enough trauma just from my last relationship.I have just been diagnosed with C-ptsd after decades of struggling with my mental health, I'm nearly 33.I stupidly thought that dating could be healthy for me, but over the past week I've cried 3 times. His beliefs are warped and could cause major issues in the long run, mistrust or blatant refusal of science isn't just the antithesis of my core beliefs: it could be harmful to my health.In my previous relationship my ex did no research, didn't listen to my explanations or read any of the research I'd found, and frequently made excuses about his ignorance while never putting in efforts to learn.I had to explain depression to him multiple times, only to have him cry to me at the very end of our 11 relationship about how depressed he was due to medical issues he was having. And this was after an angry phone call, when he ranted at me that I should "end" myself.So I am definitely not looking to repeat history and am going to let this man know I don't think we are compatible.I just hope he takes  it well.

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